Both of them refurbished: First one is: HP $855 Processor & Memory: Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor T6400 (2.0GHz) 2MB L2 cache 800MHz front side bus 4GB DDR2 SDRAM (2 x 2GB) Drives: 500GB (5,400RPM) SATA Hard Drive Lightscribe SuperMulti 8x DVD±RW double layer drive Graphics & Video: 17.3" diagonal HP LED BrightView widescreen display; 1600 x 900 native resolution 1GB ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 4650 graphics http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11480917&whse=BC&Ne=4000000&eCat=BC|84|56670&N=4033674&Mo=11&No=6&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&cat=78105&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-US&Sp=C&topnav=# 2nd one is: HP Pavillion - $630 HP Pavilion dv7-1245dx Refurbished Notebook PC - AMD Turion X2 RM-72 2.1GHz, 4GB, 320GB, DVDRW, 17” WXGA+, Vista Home Premium 64-bit, Bronze Display Type: WXGA+ High-Definition HP BrightView Screen Size: 17.0" Maximum Resolution: 1440 x 900 Memory Type: DDR2 Memory Size: 4GB Memory Slots (Total): 2 Memory Slots (Filled): 2 Memory Slots (Available): 0 Maximum Memory Supported: 8GB Capacity: 320GB Hard Drives Included: 1x 320GB Drive Types: Hard Drive Hard Drive Speed: 5400 RPM Drive Bays: 2 (1 HDD Installed) Lifestyle: Gaming Desktop Replacement Entertainment Home & Student Condition: Refurbished Operating Systems: Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit Startup Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (64-bit) Platform: PC Notebook PC Expansion Ports: 1 - Express Card Slot/54 or 34 Processor Brand: AMD Processor Class: Turion X2 Processor Type: Dual-Core Processor Speed: 2.10GHz Processor Number: RM-72 Processor FSB: 3600MHz GPU/VPU: ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics RS780M Video Memory: Up to 1918MB Video Interface: HDMI, VGA Optical Drive Type: Dual Layer DVD±RW with LightScribe http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4621293&csid=ITD&body=MAIN#detailspecs